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 Post subject: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:19 am 
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Hey guys, need some help with the rules for madeira :

1. Turn order
Di ronde atau tahun pertama (sesudah setup) player yg jalan pertama adalah yg mempunyai crown paling banyak di crown's request yg di bagiin random cmiiw. Kalo di ronde atau tahun ke 2 itu yang jalan pertama tetep player yang tadi atau berubah sesuai urutan di dice column?

Contoh :
ada player A, B, C, D.

Tahun/ronde I :
Di tahun pertama yang jalan pertama adalah player B karena crown nya paling banyak. Player C melakukan action pass paling awal di tahun pertama dan memilih urutan pertama di passing column.

Tahun atau ronde II :
Player C memilih slot di dice column lebih dulu dan C memilih slot pertama di dice Column(yg bisa flip guild favors putih). Trus di slot kedua di pilih sama player A, Slot ketiga Player B, slot keempat player D.

Pertanyaan nya :
a. yang mulai jalan di tahun ke 2 itu tetep player B terus muter clockwise atau
b. urutan nya jalan nya jadi sesuai urutan di dice column? Yg jalan pertama menjadi player C, yang kedua player A, ketiga player
B, keempat player D?


2. Mengeksport atau menjual pada Colonies dan market
Katakan lah player A sudah mempunyai kapal dan sudah menjual/export 1 grape di market/colonies.

Pertanyaan nya :
di tahun yang sama / tahun berikutnya dia mau jual/export 1 grape lagi di slot yg sama pada market atau colonies. Maka dia meletakkan dadu nya atau dadu pirate di commander untuk menjual lagi di tempat yang sama tanpa menggerakan kapal nya sama sekali. Boleh ngak yah? kan dia sudah punya kapal di slot tersebut.



3. Peletakan worker di Cities
Katakan lah player A membeli guild favor yg bernilai 5 kayu pada slot ke tiga pada cities sedangkan kan favors yang bernilai 2 dan 3 kayu pada slot ke tiga masih belum di beli.

Pertanyaan nya:
Boleh tidak menempatkan worker pada slot kosong yang di tinggal oleh favor yg baru di beli senilai 5 kayu padahal favor yg bernilai 2 dan 3 kayu masih ada?


Maap banyak nanya. Masih agak bingung sama bbrp rules nya.

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
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1. Di round berikutnya turn order di tentukan based on the turn order track yg berubah sesuai pilihan player pada saat dia pass.
Ketika player pass, dia bisa milih posisi urutan turn order dan dpt benefit yg tertera (ingat pilihannya ada 2 tp yang aktif cm 1 di setiap slot, entah mau ambil duit atau action yg tertera).

Jadi di 2nd round turn order untuk milih dice dsb tergantung dr turn order itu. Kalau turn order di fase berikutnya itu tergantung slot dice yang di pilih.

2. Ga bisa jual di tmp yg sama, harus pindah, soalnya kalo bisa blockingnya jadi ga ada obatnya. Lu hrs move dl baru export market or pay tax on colonies.

3. No problem, guild tile hanya menutup slot buat citizen, jadi kl kebuka tmp baru bisa di isi.

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:06 pm 
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Thank you for the answers :D
Nanti kalo g bingung, g tanya lagi yah :D

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:30 am 
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No problem bro, silahkan tanya aja kalo ada yang kurang jelas. Daripada main ga jelas 2-3 jam eh salah rule. Hahaha...

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:12 pm 
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Tanya lagi yah.

Getting wood

Kondisi :
1. wood di semua region sudah habis.
2. sudah ada worker di Forrest field
3. Di city ada 1 worker dan 1 neutral worker di bagian kayu
4. butuh 3 kayu utk maintenance kapal

saat melakukan mayor action berarti kan dapet 3 kayu dari Forrest field
Pertanyaan nya 3 kayu tersebut harus di bayar atau tidak yah?

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:30 am 
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Ga perlu it's free.

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:03 pm 
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Itu harus bayar cuma kalau pas maintenance ship dan stock wood kamu kurang. Bener gak?


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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:25 am 
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dunnoes wrote:
Itu harus bayar cuma kalau pas maintenance ship dan stock wood kamu kurang. Bener gak?

Ya intinya adalah:
1. When you need wood and don't have any, you can buy the wood through the forest (you need to have a citizen on the forest area of course). When do you need wood? To get Guild favor tiles and to pay ship maintenance.
2. The Mayor activation gives you wood, so you don't need to buy. You only need access to that place. Anggap aja Mayor memberikan ijin buat kita untuk cut down trees in the forest, so you need lumberjacks to to the work for you, hence the citizen on the forest.

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:09 am 
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Thx for the answer bro.

Jadi sebener nya siapa yang bisa monopoli kayu di city, dia yg menang yah?

Buat dapeting duit butuh kapal dimana kapal butuh kayu
buat dapetin guild favour, butuh kayu
kayu kebanyakan, di akhir ronde, tiap kayu yg blm di gunakan jadi VP

bener yah?

edit : di akhir ronde, tiap kayu yg blm di gunakan jadi real bkn VP ( dah g koreksi di post halaman ke-2, my bad)

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 Post subject: Re: Madeira (ask rules)
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joviejo wrote:
Thx for the answer bro.

Jadi sebener nya siapa yang bisa monopoli kayu di city, dia yg menang yah?

Buat dapeting duit butuh kapal dimana kapal butuh kayu
buat dapetin guild favour, butuh kayu
kayu kebanyakan, di akhir ronde, tiap kayu yg blm di gunakan jadi VP

bener yah?


Wah bro, statement "yg monopoli kayu di city dia yg menang" itu maksudnya apa ya?

Tidak bisa monopoli kayu. Semua bisa dpt access kayu dari forest region. Ingat ini space-nya ga blocking, jadi jika ada player yg sudah place citizen di forest, pemain lain tetap bisa place citizen di area tsb, ini berlaku untuk space lainnya di map. Restrictionnya secara general adalah tiap player max hanya bisa place 1 citizen di setiap space.

Buat dapetin duit karena jualan emang dari kapal, bikin dan maintenance kapal memang butuh kayu.
Guild favor emang butuh kayu sesuai harganya.
Di akhir ronde (ada 5 round) tidak scoring kayu, hanya di akhir round 1, 3 dan 5 scoring berdasarkan crown request tile.
Di end game, gabungan antara kayu, anggur, gandum, gula, dan roti diubah jadi uang (masing2 dihargai 1 coin) dan uang di end game, 1 VP untuk setiap 5 uang.

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